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media sort of wishful thinking, trying too write off romney. i normally do not buy into the idea media is on board on one side. this the exception. this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and obsessing over things that mitt romney has done wrong. >> rick: cal, why? >> why? do you have to ask. my goodness. first of all these polls, we talked about this before on the show. i'm opposed to news organizations doing their own polls and making news from them. what you are going to see ten days, two weeks before the election is lot of story line being, hey the race is night thing because they want ratings the but these things are sophisticated form of fortune telling. i passed on the way studio, psychic, let me stop the cab and see who is going to win the election but it's the same approach. >> rick: the narrative that gets plays out in the media. it's almost over. if romney doesn't score, big in the first debate in denver this coming week, that it definitely is over. his do
media sort of wishful thinking, trying too write off romney. i normally do not buy into the idea media is on board on one side. this the exception. this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and obsessing over things that mitt romney has done wrong. >> rick: cal, why? >> why? do you have to ask. my goodness. first of all these polls, we talked about this before on the show. i'm opposed to news organizations...
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mitt romney makes a good case. what we might end up in a war it's the policies of president obama in southeast asia and pakistani and afghanistan and in the middle east. >> patti ann:. >> paul: when you say creating a vacuum. since we left iraq and it is winding down but we didn't leave any troops there. we are staying out of syria. then, of course, the biggest problem, brett, is iran? >> you have to ask yourself is this a president that says we're going to have any more wars in middle east, how about con sunltd go israel, netanyahu saying. >> paul: 90% on their way to a nuclear bomb? >> they are increasing their capacity. a few months by the international atomic energy. i've been told by nuclear scientists that once you are 20% you are actually 87% way toward the goal. >> paul: key point of war, gets down to a fundamental difference of foreign policy, whether or not president obama's policy towards iran, four years of trying to coax them into a discussion quid pro quo, if you stop pursuing a nuclear weapon hasn't
mitt romney makes a good case. what we might end up in a war it's the policies of president obama in southeast asia and pakistani and afghanistan and in the middle east. >> patti ann:. >> paul: when you say creating a vacuum. since we left iraq and it is winding down but we didn't leave any troops there. we are staying out of syria. then, of course, the biggest problem, brett, is iran? >> you have to ask yourself is this a president that says we're going to have any more wars...
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he can go after romney on anything. seems to be personal with him. >> greta: is he effective as the senate majority leader? any of you. >> well, i think republicans will be quick to say they've gone how many months out passing a budget. they've punted on a number of issues. if you're asking republicans, no. harry reid is the king of gridlock. he's been single-handedly -- he and the president have been responsible for government grinding to a halt. i think democrats would argue that he's a fighter. he's their fighter. he's a former professional boxer in their corner all along. >> that's right. you have to remember that he's also sort of a de facto leader of democrats in congress. what he's doing is fighting for his party. he's fighting and trying to make the republicans look as bad as possible. to that end he's been somewhat successful. >> greta: i would feel somewhat ashamed. i go back to the anonymity issue when he said he had a secret source that said that governor romney didn't pay taxes. if you have a source, name t
he can go after romney on anything. seems to be personal with him. >> greta: is he effective as the senate majority leader? any of you. >> well, i think republicans will be quick to say they've gone how many months out passing a budget. they've punted on a number of issues. if you're asking republicans, no. harry reid is the king of gridlock. he's been single-handedly -- he and the president have been responsible for government grinding to a halt. i think democrats would argue that...
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i know romney and obama. as far as personality is concerned, i think they are both -- they are very close. they are basically inherently shy. these are not guys with john belushi in animal house doing the dance on the floor. to ga dance. they are reserved men. i agree with the doctor. i'll give you last word that romney has to show more personality during the debates but be authoritative. >> he absolutely does. what happened at the convention, they tried to focus on likeability. minute bill clinton came out and said obama the gets a pass that really hurt mitt romney he has to say these are the four things i'm going to do. >> bill: he has to put the president on defensive without being a mean guy. as a mean guy myself, that is not easy. [ laughter ] >> bill: miss laura ingraham on whether the president's lead means anything to her. and campaign messages and we're coming right bac i was teaching a martial arts class and having a heart attack. my brother doesn't look like heart attack patient. i'm on a bayer asp
i know romney and obama. as far as personality is concerned, i think they are both -- they are very close. they are basically inherently shy. these are not guys with john belushi in animal house doing the dance on the floor. to ga dance. they are reserved men. i agree with the doctor. i'll give you last word that romney has to show more personality during the debates but be authoritative. >> he absolutely does. what happened at the convention, they tried to focus on likeability. minute...
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this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't that excited about their choice. but it's mostly the independent voters they will have to focus on. bill: you make the case this debate is really for them. the persuadables. >> it's not just for them. it's for those in certain states. it's great that we can talk about the race, what's happening nationally. but what matters is what's happening in battle ground states. and it looks like the race is moving in obama's direction. bill: i want to take you both back to an event in 2008 that a lot of folks have forgotten about. i believe this is ja
this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't...
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for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf ofely. but because of business people like you, things are beginning to get rolling. and regions is here to help. making it easier with the expertise and service to keep those wheels turning. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving forward. so switch to regions. and let's get going. together. >> bill: personal story segment tonight, commentator ben stein very angry about the assassination of the american ambassador to libya. earlier this week mr. stein said this about secretary of state hillary clinton. >> she should h
for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf ofely. but...
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. >> harry reid is targeting mitt romney's mormon faith. that's fine. let's talk about the president's faith. >> no, no, no. not bless america, damn america. >> sean: all of that, and the president is not reading off the teleprompter. >> we don't have all the information yet. >> sean: and the ad the main street media don't want you to see. we're 40 days from election day. "hannity" starts right here right now. if you want a glimpse into what the future holds for america if president barack obama is handed a second term, take a hard long look at the chaos unfolding in the group in europe. violent riots are raging in the streets of spain and greece as angry mobs protest against the government and austerity measures there. in athens, more than 70,000 people descended on the greek parliament. molotov cocktails targeted police officers, and similar scenes of violence in madrid as well, but make no mistake if this president is in fact afforded another four years in office and has the ability to run up our national debt another $6 trillion, look right there, t
. >> harry reid is targeting mitt romney's mormon faith. that's fine. let's talk about the president's faith. >> no, no, no. not bless america, damn america. >> sean: all of that, and the president is not reading off the teleprompter. >> we don't have all the information yet. >> sean: and the ad the main street media don't want you to see. we're 40 days from election day. "hannity" starts right here right now. if you want a glimpse into what the future...
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for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of of --pe gutfeld and mcguirk upcoming. (sfx: sound of piano smashing) roadrunner: meep meep. meep meep? (sfx: loud thud sound) what a strange place. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. so let's talk about coverage. based on this chart, who would you choose ? wow. you guys take a minute. zon, hands down. i'm going to show you guys another chart. pretty obvious. i don't think color matters. pretty obvious. what'sretty obvious about it ? that verizon has the coverage. verizon. verizon. we're going to go to another chart. it doesn't r
for romney by the way? >> at this point i can't bring myself to ask for four more years of this. >> bill: you are rooting for romney. >> just like i said, i can't stand another four years of this. i will will gamble on a different approach. >> bill: there you go. directly ahead, ben stein says hillary clinton should lose her job as secretary of state over the assassination in libya. and later actor samuel l. jackson ranting on behalf of of --pe gutfeld and mcguirk...
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there's not a universal consensus romney has to be the clear winner. laying the bench mark it's the debate falls into the media means of romney has to perform if he doesn't it's an excuse of another round in my mind of disgustingly biassed pieces of mitt romney. i believe phil is right when bara barack obama was challenged in the interview last week by jorge he was challenged really hard. he is uncomfortable when he is confronted with facts and simply worded questions. if mitt romney remind people we have 11.7 unemployment not 8.1 america's best days cannot be behind her they have to be in front of her i think he wins by not having a moment but having a moment of real leadership and real maturity. >> in that first debate wednesday october 3rd fox news channel coverage starts at precisely at 8:55 p.m. with meg megan kelly and bret baier. >> not a minute later than that. 8:55. >> before you leave your house let's get the first degree weather update. >> we have a lot of heavy ooifrn the weekend. todayed rain is over tennessee and the carolinas already sta
there's not a universal consensus romney has to be the clear winner. laying the bench mark it's the debate falls into the media means of romney has to perform if he doesn't it's an excuse of another round in my mind of disgustingly biassed pieces of mitt romney. i believe phil is right when bara barack obama was challenged in the interview last week by jorge he was challenged really hard. he is uncomfortable when he is confronted with facts and simply worded questions. if mitt romney remind...
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i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean, the only question i have, because the ads are powerful right now, and that was a good one, why did they wait till the third week of september to start running that ad? that i don't understand. >> sean: good point, good question. obama, back to class warfare. not one of us attacking romney for his wealth, which let's see if it resonates. i don't think it will. i haven't seen the dials yet. let's take a look. >> i'm barack obama. a prove this message. >> seen these new ads where mitt romney says he's a friend of coal country? this is the guy who wants to keep tax breaks for companies that ship american jobs overseas.
i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean,...
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it will give an opportunity for mitt romney, he hopes, romney hopes to call out the president on some of the deceptions of his positions. mitt romney has argued that he does not support abortion with the exception of rape and incest and life of the mother. barack obama campaign has suggested romney shares paul ryan's view that doesn't have exception. he says the auto bailout, so that is romney is looking for and in case of president obama. what he with a really wants to do is make sure this doesn't become a discussion in the last three and a half years but a discussion how the next four years would be spent in a choice for the voters between the romney obama agenda. >> gregg: all right. carl cameron, thanks very much. >> president obama arriving in las vegas moments ago. we'll have a live report a bit later in the newscast. >> heather: meantime, controversy growing over the deadly attack in libya. into new calls investigation in assault that killed chris steens and three other americans. more questions are being raised over the obama administration's official version of what happened.
it will give an opportunity for mitt romney, he hopes, romney hopes to call out the president on some of the deceptions of his positions. mitt romney has argued that he does not support abortion with the exception of rape and incest and life of the mother. barack obama campaign has suggested romney shares paul ryan's view that doesn't have exception. he says the auto bailout, so that is romney is looking for and in case of president obama. what he with a really wants to do is make sure this...
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down 5 points and suggests romney it down. and one who was not a-- and a pollster for gary hart and so on, he wrote in great part, what the media are doing are newspapers are supposed to be broke, instead spending money on polls in virginia, ohio and florida where obama clearly is clobbering romney in terms of television buys, you're down 8 points in ohio must be losing nationwide. it's not wrong, but it's obviously to suggest that romney is a goner. >> rick: kirsten, do you agree we'll hear stories about a tightening of the race because the media want to generate ratings and sell newspapers and magazines or perhaps a guilt on part of the mainstream media maybe we should be covering this a little bit more fairly than we have been? >>pist-- i think that sometimes media polls can be a little cooked. i have a friend, he used to do it for one of the media organizations and used to say, ding, here, it's been cooked, here is what you wanted. but the thing is, nate silver did a good analysis of the polls that show there are biases, b
down 5 points and suggests romney it down. and one who was not a-- and a pollster for gary hart and so on, he wrote in great part, what the media are doing are newspapers are supposed to be broke, instead spending money on polls in virginia, ohio and florida where obama clearly is clobbering romney in terms of television buys, you're down 8 points in ohio must be losing nationwide. it's not wrong, but it's obviously to suggest that romney is a goner. >> rick: kirsten, do you agree we'll...
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it's romney getting the business. if the polls hold up, mitt romney potentially getting the shaft. i don't think things are that simple or they work out that way, ask yourself this when you look at electoral map. how is that a race decided across the country is showing something different across the republican-run state, states that are beating the national average. jobs gained, businesses charged and volt voters. they say it's testment to what happens when you put republican in charge of the state. wouldn't it be a pit if it means democrats staying in charge of the country? e-mails are pouring in fast and furious. people just can't believe the impact that my one-on-one with paul ryan at the republican convention had on the presidential race. i got us here. fe
it's romney getting the business. if the polls hold up, mitt romney potentially getting the shaft. i don't think things are that simple or they work out that way, ask yourself this when you look at electoral map. how is that a race decided across the country is showing something different across the republican-run state, states that are beating the national average. jobs gained, businesses charged and volt voters. they say it's testment to what happens when you put republican in charge of the...
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romney shouldance that question. if they go back to mindlessly reminding people guess what the economy is not great they will waste the next ten days. >> chris: we have to move on. the president will have the opportunity to explain all that to the ladies of "the view" is. >> exactly right. >> chris: we have to take a break. when we come back, president obama also had his troubles this week with antiamerican violence in the middle east and a changing story about what happened at >>> the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm u.s. interests. >> they still are blaming the video. and they have a fundamental misunderstanding. they believe it was the video. it is not the video. >> chris: senator john mccain and president obama disagreering sharply over the attack that killed four americans in libya. we are back with the panel. slowly and grudgingly the obama administration finally acknowledged this week that it it was a te
romney shouldance that question. if they go back to mindlessly reminding people guess what the economy is not great they will waste the next ten days. >> chris: we have to move on. the president will have the opportunity to explain all that to the ladies of "the view" is. >> exactly right. >> chris: we have to take a break. when we come back, president obama also had his troubles this week with antiamerican violence in the middle east and a changing story about what...
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he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively but disproportionately for mitt romney rather than president obama. does that make the debates all the more relevant and vital? >> no question about it. i would pointed out to you in a lot of these swing states, president obama is getting up to about 50% getting close and in some states he is just about over. it doesn't matter necessarily if there is a 4-point difference if he is reaching the 50% mark he is good shape. a lot of these voters are still waiting to see what mitt romney will bring. i talked to undecided voter in ohio the other day and he said he has taken his kids to president obama's ralli
he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively...
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montana moved from romney to lean romney. there were 11 other states then moved toward obama but had no change in status. there were five states that moved toward governor romney. but again had no change in status. >> joe, of those, what is most important? >> i mean the biggest thing is that shift in nevada and ohio. those two in particular. ohio, obviously, a big move. moving it to lean obama, it puts for the first time, i think since we started back in april, it puts obama with over the 270 electoral votes. we had that back then. it's coming clear today. that makes states like colorado even more important. and ohio still, it's got -- that is a problem for romney that is now starting to show in the polls. although they came out yesterday saying that obama was only up by four. and had -- the rates were still very much up for grabs. romney people have to hope for that to be true. >> bret: karl, what about that? you know, even the p.p.p., a democratic leaning organization, suggesting some place like ohio is still up for grab. t
montana moved from romney to lean romney. there were 11 other states then moved toward obama but had no change in status. there were five states that moved toward governor romney. but again had no change in status. >> joe, of those, what is most important? >> i mean the biggest thing is that shift in nevada and ohio. those two in particular. ohio, obviously, a big move. moving it to lean obama, it puts for the first time, i think since we started back in april, it puts obama with...
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romney? >> i think what romney needs to do. does he understand their problems. when he's out there he touches them. he has to touch as many people as he can and he has to keep coming back. he has to talk about policies and not people. it is it about lower tax less government and economic growth that landlords to jobs. only thing that matters is yobs and who ever can tell them in a swing state. i know how to create them and i will help your family and your kids are going back to work and that is who am win. >> gretchen: that's what every election comes down to. the pocket book. what the governor said is important. does mitt romney understand the people's problems? when he is out there, does he touch them? and this is it all back to messaging. the fren percent thing; is that resonating in people's minds . he need toz get out there and let them know he cares about them. >> brian: president obama is doing a good job making the most of the tape. right now governor casecs approval at fren percent. if you make a governor's council of winning governors that might be the
romney? >> i think what romney needs to do. does he understand their problems. when he's out there he touches them. he has to touch as many people as he can and he has to keep coming back. he has to talk about policies and not people. it is it about lower tax less government and economic growth that landlords to jobs. only thing that matters is yobs and who ever can tell them in a swing state. i know how to create them and i will help your family and your kids are going back to work and...
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romney did. he talked about it after it was over. >> we spoke about the greatest national security threat we faced. the world faces. iran with nuclear capabilities. we spoke about this assessment of where the red line ought to be drawn. my own views with regard to iran. he spoke of red line and gave a date, which was spring and summer of next year. he said he expected an attack by june of this year. they a offering an olive branch to the president. it's recognition on part of israelis that the chances of obama re-election are rising. >> i bant to say a word. somewhat defense of romney on the libya piece. everybody would go after him for exploiting the tragedy for the political purposes. he was in a no-win situation. >> yeah. i think if way to sol that is put it in broader context. iraq had 155,000 american troops and now has 150 troops in it. conduit for iran to syria. the region is going in chaos. and barack obama who ironically ran foreign policy to keep it out of the news the first term is get
romney did. he talked about it after it was over. >> we spoke about the greatest national security threat we faced. the world faces. iran with nuclear capabilities. we spoke about this assessment of where the red line ought to be drawn. my own views with regard to iran. he spoke of red line and gave a date, which was spring and summer of next year. he said he expected an attack by june of this year. they a offering an olive branch to the president. it's recognition on part of israelis...
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. >> and romney is correct to say that. >> romney has no plan to solve the debt crisis. >> totally incorrect. >> bill: all right. come on, it's boring, isn't it now? isn't it boring now to keep going back and forth on that? >> he's beating back the misrepresentations because they're always 100% wrong. >> bill: rock and a hard place, everybody. >> lsd. >> bill: can we get security in here now? all right. directly ahead, john stossel investigating whether or not the obama administration has watered down welfare work requirements. and then is it legal on a texas woman arrested, taken to jail for letting her children play outside. you think we're kidding? we're not. those reports are coming up ely. >> bill: stossel matters segment, when president obama took office, 32 million americans were on food stamps. now the number is 47 million. there are charges that the obama administration wants to get as many people as possible on the dole. >> when i think o reengage people in politics is we're doing serious policy work around what i will label working poor, they were struggling. and to the extent tha
. >> and romney is correct to say that. >> romney has no plan to solve the debt crisis. >> totally incorrect. >> bill: all right. come on, it's boring, isn't it now? isn't it boring now to keep going back and forth on that? >> he's beating back the misrepresentations because they're always 100% wrong. >> bill: rock and a hard place, everybody. >> lsd. >> bill: can we get security in here now? all right. directly ahead, john stossel investigating...
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romney leads by one. but on government spending, this is really amazing, mitt romney leads by 17 points. does he need to exploit that? >> well, yeah, i think he does. i'm actually amazed it is not bigger. there were 38% of the people polled think that president obama would be better on government spending? i mean, honestly i just don't have any explanation for how those 38% could believe that unless they're government workers. mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of government spending, debt, deficits and make this much more of an idealogical argument, an idealogical case against the president. he is a big government liberal. he expanded government at every turn. he will expand government further in his second term. gregg: want to put one more graphic poll up for you. most voters, 73%, say they're aware of the 47% comment notoriously made by governor mitt romney. but look at this, 63% think he is right when he argues that too many people in america are dependent on the government. you have
romney leads by one. but on government spending, this is really amazing, mitt romney leads by 17 points. does he need to exploit that? >> well, yeah, i think he does. i'm actually amazed it is not bigger. there were 38% of the people polled think that president obama would be better on government spending? i mean, honestly i just don't have any explanation for how those 38% could believe that unless they're government workers. mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of...
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governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor christie right, will this turn the presidential race upside down in byron? >> mitt romney at the south carolina primary, newt gingrich cleaned his clock. helhelp headedthey were headed o florida. romney felt he had his back to the wall, and he beat gingrich in both debates in florida. that's the spirit romney needs. he needs to do that well. >> greta: will he, steve hayes? reticent on this libya thing, he backed away a little bit. >> yeah. i think the tone of the romney campaign, particularly over the last week, has been a softer tone. they haven't wa
governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor...
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what is the romney camp up to? >>reporter: they are headed to denver with a big rally at wings over the rockies air and space museum. what we will see tonight is a shift in strategy. the governor's attempts at framing this as a referendum on president obama have not been working. he now is saying this is a choice for two very different futures for america. he is saying that his choice is one where a smaller government would have facility private enterprise to grow the economy. the other, his version of president obama's view is that government is still in control of everything. the challenge for governor romney and the debate on wednesday is going to be fully articulate his vision for america's future to the largest audience of his political career. >> we need to give the american people the choice we are offering. that is what we are offering. we owe the country a very clear choice of a different future. we can have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have a stagnant opportunity that fost
what is the romney camp up to? >>reporter: they are headed to denver with a big rally at wings over the rockies air and space museum. what we will see tonight is a shift in strategy. the governor's attempts at framing this as a referendum on president obama have not been working. he now is saying this is a choice for two very different futures for america. he is saying that his choice is one where a smaller government would have facility private enterprise to grow the economy. the other,...
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pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday night, this is it. they need to turn this campaign around. debates are vehicles of challengers. this is his chance to do this. >> sean: we need the mitt romney that showed up after losing south carolina, where he went into that state up double digits, and came out winning by double digits -- i'm sorry -- lost by double digits, then went to florida and had two debates with newt, that's the romney i want. >> the one-on-one debate forum is not necessarily president obama's best either. they've been after him for $700 million on character. the american people get 90 minutes to see whether or not tha
pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday...
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this went from lean romney to solid romney. new hampshire, the polls moved it from a lean obama to a tossup state. and interestingly enough, polls in new mexico and pennsylvania with a total of 25 electoral votes move states from obama to lean obama. these were offset by three changes that helped the obama. wisconsin moved from toss township lean obama. oregon moved from lean obama to obama. and arizona moved from romney to lean romney. this drops obama total of obama states to 196, plus he has 51 lean. romney has, grew slightly to 159 electoral votes in his column. plus 32 lean. it was a week of some change, not a lot. but generally compensating changes. >> bret: of those, the significance? >> the most significant is wisconsin moving to lean obama. it caution here, there is an outlier poll out there. a poll that shows obama leading in wisconsin by 14 points. that is skewing this. wisconsin is starting to lean. that is shrinking, shrinking the electoral map. the other surprise for me still is that north carolina remains on our
this went from lean romney to solid romney. new hampshire, the polls moved it from a lean obama to a tossup state. and interestingly enough, polls in new mexico and pennsylvania with a total of 25 electoral votes move states from obama to lean obama. these were offset by three changes that helped the obama. wisconsin moved from toss township lean obama. oregon moved from lean obama to obama. and arizona moved from romney to lean romney. this drops obama total of obama states to 196, plus he has...
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and paul ryan was essentially trying to set the stage for mitt romney by framing the issues as the romney-ryan ticket sees them, almost five weeks away. >> we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or a stagnant economy that fosssters dependency. we can stick with the failed policies of the last four years, or a brighter future. stagnation versus growth. dependency versus opportunity and upward mobility. that's a classic choice, a clear difference that we're offering. >> romney returns to boston for the weekend and this morning, church and debate prep and tomorrow off to denver getting ready for the face-off on wednesday night, harris. >> harris: it's interesting how they prepare, the practice sessions. do we know how governor romney's practice sessions are going? >> he spent quite a bit of time doing it, a lot of book research, just studying, a great deal with the campaign teamworking ways to phrase questions as suscinctly and the mock debates with rob portman, playing the role of president obama, researched his debate performance against john mccain and some othe
and paul ryan was essentially trying to set the stage for mitt romney by framing the issues as the romney-ryan ticket sees them, almost five weeks away. >> we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or a stagnant economy that fosssters dependency. we can stick with the failed policies of the last four years, or a brighter future. stagnation versus growth. dependency versus opportunity and upward mobility. that's a classic choice, a clear difference that we're...
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one man is hoping to drum up support for governor romney. ralph reed is th was an advisore bush and cheney campaigns. nice to see you, ralph. >> good to be with you, greta. >> greta: you have a database of 17.1 million, which is giant. i'm curious, what are you saying to that 17.1 million as to the reason they should come out and vote for governor romney? >> greta, first of all, we've engaged in a massive voter registration effort. this were 17 million evangelical christians who didn't bother to go to the polls four years ago when barack obama was elected. about half of those because they weren't registered to vote. about half were registered to vote didn't bother to come. the first thing we focused on and voter registration continues in most states through october 6th or 9th, in some states like wisconsin you can go through to election day, we're making sure that at a minimum they're registered, they're informed, they're educated. second thing we're doing, greta, we're distributing over 51 million copies of a nonpartisan voter guide that sh
one man is hoping to drum up support for governor romney. ralph reed is th was an advisore bush and cheney campaigns. nice to see you, ralph. >> good to be with you, greta. >> greta: you have a database of 17.1 million, which is giant. i'm curious, what are you saying to that 17.1 million as to the reason they should come out and vote for governor romney? >> greta, first of all, we've engaged in a massive voter registration effort. this were 17 million evangelical christians...
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>> from 1985 as bain capital, it was a video presentation where governor romney then just mitt romney was talking about the goals of being bain capital to invest in start-up companies and then take and manage them and five to eight years and harvest them at a significant profit. obama campaign jumped over the word harvest, it's clear that he was only interested in making profits through bain capital and not interested in creating jobs. here is the response from the romney campaign, saying, quote, in addition to starting new businesses, mitt romney helped build bain capital by turning around broken companies and creating and saving thousands of jobs. we should point out this idea of harvesting is a common term in private equity and venture capital. it usually doesn't happen according to one manager until the company has grown significantly and a lot of jobs created. >> shep: john, that is going. we're less than a week from the first presidential debate. we'll be there in denver next wednesday. then watch bret baier and megyn kelly with prime time coverage. it starts just before 9:00 ea
>> from 1985 as bain capital, it was a video presentation where governor romney then just mitt romney was talking about the goals of being bain capital to invest in start-up companies and then take and manage them and five to eight years and harvest them at a significant profit. obama campaign jumped over the word harvest, it's clear that he was only interested in making profits through bain capital and not interested in creating jobs. here is the response from the romney campaign,...
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romney has to answer questions. >> andrea: good. looking forward to it. >> bob: how are you going to protect medicare and social security and cut taxes increase the budget and balance the budget? jon >> he will answer that on wednesday. >> bob: i'm sure he will. all i can say is one more thing is next. ♪ ♪ >> eric: all right. time for one more thing. >> andrea: we have had a heavy show but this will lighten the mood. whitney is a sophomore in michigan. and last week, she was told she was going to be the homecoming queen by students at her school only to find out they were just playing a nasty prank on her. well, she has some words for those bullies. >> kids are bullying, do not let them bring you down. stand up for what you believe in. go with your heart and go with your gut. that's what i did. and look at me now. i'm as happy as can be. >> andrea: the national media heard about this story and the community rallied around her. they chipped in to buy her dress for homecoming. they bought her homecoming dinner dance. that was her
romney has to answer questions. >> andrea: good. looking forward to it. >> bob: how are you going to protect medicare and social security and cut taxes increase the budget and balance the budget? jon >> he will answer that on wednesday. >> bob: i'm sure he will. all i can say is one more thing is next. ♪ ♪ >> eric: all right. time for one more thing. >> andrea: we have had a heavy show but this will lighten the mood. whitney is a sophomore in michigan....
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he said mitt romney is my guy. i'm disappointed that the president. >> noble peace prize winner, former president of poland, hero of the fall of the soviet union, he basically wrapped his arms around mitt romney, but the story of the trip was that romney had made a so-called gaffe in london which was a minor thing. or that romney's press guy had said something rude to a press corps at cemetery event. those were the dominant stories. in fact jon stewart ran a graphic, national geo gaffe. that was gaffe ridden trip but it was highly successful. speech in israel was greatly received. >> brian: the other example just happened. when you have the attacks at benghazi. romney makes a statement and nobody focuses on the day after the ambassador is killed. >> or the president has sent out susan rice on chat shows and told basically lies because they knew it was terrorist attack and they sent out her to say it was a protest over a movie. to go back to the polling thing really quickly. there was a gaffe about polling. it was c
he said mitt romney is my guy. i'm disappointed that the president. >> noble peace prize winner, former president of poland, hero of the fall of the soviet union, he basically wrapped his arms around mitt romney, but the story of the trip was that romney had made a so-called gaffe in london which was a minor thing. or that romney's press guy had said something rude to a press corps at cemetery event. those were the dominant stories. in fact jon stewart ran a graphic, national geo gaffe....
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romney has to answer questions. >> andrea: good. looking forward to it. >> bob: how are you going to protect medicare and social security and cut taxes increase the budget and balance the budget? jon >> he will answer that on wednesday. >> bob: i'm sure he will. all i can say is one more thing is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm hi'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy
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governor romney, he is a good debater. i am just okay. >> yes, and i am an amateur as house boy rodeo. meanwhile obama and romney are not the only ones squaring off this week. >> i believe that is a metaphor for this election. i don't know what exactly it was they were holding on to with their teeth. i have to think that maybe it is our constitution. >> either way the pink wardrobe is not helping. it must be the arizona sheriff. >> jill, you are an entertainment reporter, but put on your political hat. i want to ask your advice, what should the candidates do? what do you think they should do? >> i understand they have been rehersing for two weeks and trying to study up and be natural and speak in short sound bytes that are not too short that they found dismissive. what they should have done is competed in pageants. they would have had all of these years to work on speaking on stage in front of judgmental people. >> what is the one thing you did to change the world? >> i believe in organ donation. it is giving the gift of l
governor romney, he is a good debater. i am just okay. >> yes, and i am an amateur as house boy rodeo. meanwhile obama and romney are not the only ones squaring off this week. >> i believe that is a metaphor for this election. i don't know what exactly it was they were holding on to with their teeth. i have to think that maybe it is our constitution. >> either way the pink wardrobe is not helping. it must be the arizona sheriff. >> jill, you are an entertainment...
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he blasted romney. he said he's coming to a state where there are a lot of members of the lds church. they understand he is not the face of mormonism. reid was repeating a quote in an opinion piece written by an author and mormon historian and romney supporter who turned against romney after the comment about the 47%. french wrote in the "huffington post" *. judge romney as you will and vote for and against him as you will. but do not judge mormonism on the basis of the mitt romney that was unveiled to the public this week. he is not the face of mormonism. hsh took it a step further saying he had sullied the religion he and prince share. other mormons have said mitt romney's campaign has been a positive influence. j.w. marriott of the marriott hotel chain said the campaign was wonderful. story after story talking about mitt romney's mormonism, the family who had a premature daughter who had premature complications. and the 14-year-old dying boy who befriended mitt romney and had mitt romney write his wi
he blasted romney. he said he's coming to a state where there are a lot of members of the lds church. they understand he is not the face of mormonism. reid was repeating a quote in an opinion piece written by an author and mormon historian and romney supporter who turned against romney after the comment about the 47%. french wrote in the "huffington post" *. judge romney as you will and vote for and against him as you will. but do not judge mormonism on the basis of the mitt romney...
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beth myers, governor romney's individualer says she -- romney's adviser, blooms. since he won't and can't talk about his record, he will talk about mitt romney. the gloves will come off. megyn: beautiful wayne, p.a. out in oregon today there is new controversy. hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars in loans about to go to a startup solar company called solopower. many are comparing this to solyndra, the company that went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook. it's not just this controversy we want to tell you about, but what happened when fox news tried to speak with the company's ceo. dan springer streaming live from solo power in portland, oregon. >> reporter: the ceo refused to answer any of our questions at grand opening yesterday, even after taking questions from other media. solopower is getting lot of money from the government. we wanted to ask him why his company was a better gamble for taxpayers than solyndra or the others. the companies use the same raw materials. they both make thin, light, flexible solar panels that can go object big box store roo
beth myers, governor romney's individualer says she -- romney's adviser, blooms. since he won't and can't talk about his record, he will talk about mitt romney. the gloves will come off. megyn: beautiful wayne, p.a. out in oregon today there is new controversy. hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars in loans about to go to a startup solar company called solopower. many are comparing this to solyndra, the company that went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook. it's not just this controversy...
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goldp bear, golfing legend and ohio native jack nicklaus will campaign with romney tomorrow. they argue that the public polls are inned a kate. they say it's a virtual tie in the wire in ohio and across the country six weeks from tonight. bret? >> bret: 42 days. carl call ron live in ohio. thank you. home rices were up 1.2% this july compared to last year. the second straight monthly gain. after two years without one. stocks were down today. dow lost 101. s&p 500 fell 15. nasdaq gave back 43. how a disputed call at a football game is bringing political enemies together. that's later in the grapevine. up next, bringing a are you puteed terrorist back to america for justice. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and shoul
goldp bear, golfing legend and ohio native jack nicklaus will campaign with romney tomorrow. they argue that the public polls are inned a kate. they say it's a virtual tie in the wire in ohio and across the country six weeks from tonight. bret? >> bret: 42 days. carl call ron live in ohio. thank you. home rices were up 1.2% this july compared to last year. the second straight monthly gain. after two years without one. stocks were down today. dow lost 101. s&p 500 fell 15. nasdaq gave...
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mitt romney could go toe to toe with him and punch for punch. it's it's 2008 rope-a-dope obama that dominated the debates back then governor romney has to be careful not to punch himself out early or commit any unforced errors. clearly articulate the choice between himself and president obama where he would take the country and where the president would here is ryan. >> he needs to give the american people the choice we are offering. that's what we are doing. we owe the country a very clear choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> and this debate format is going to be different for the governor as well. out of 23 debates he has never, shep, had a one-on-one like he will on wednesday. >> shepard: while they are trying to lower expectations here some surrogates and some aren't. >> exactly. things are going pretty well in the expectations game. right up until governor chris christie of new jersey went on the air and hit mitt rom
mitt romney could go toe to toe with him and punch for punch. it's it's 2008 rope-a-dope obama that dominated the debates back then governor romney has to be careful not to punch himself out early or commit any unforced errors. clearly articulate the choice between himself and president obama where he would take the country and where the president would here is ryan. >> he needs to give the american people the choice we are offering. that's what we are doing. we owe the country a very...
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romney more weeks now. in the expectations game the obama campaign has seeds on romney's prook is time and the fact that he had 20 debates in the primaries to suggest he's the more experienced debater. the romney campaign says this is the president of the united states who has already been in presidential debates and this is romney's first time to do that. bill: does he have an answer ready for the 47% who do not pay income taxes. >> reporter: he does. to put the genie back in the bought and take the bite out of the remarks. deep criticism for the way he called folks who don't pay income taxes essentially lazy. here is his new remark delivered yesterday to the local fox affiliate in denver upon mr. romney's arrival. >> they want to know, will i get jobs for the american people and get rising incomes. and i'm a president for 100% of the american people. that's the real percent people care about. not 99 versus 1. not 47% versus anyone else. i will be for 100% of the people. >> reporter: but he's not walk away
romney more weeks now. in the expectations game the obama campaign has seeds on romney's prook is time and the fact that he had 20 debates in the primaries to suggest he's the more experienced debater. the romney campaign says this is the president of the united states who has already been in presidential debates and this is romney's first time to do that. bill: does he have an answer ready for the 47% who do not pay income taxes. >> reporter: he does. to put the genie back in the bought...
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what about mitt romney, though? bill o'reilly offering up his advice this morning on fox and friends. take a listen. >> what romney should be doing right now is watching ronald reagan take apart jimmy carter. now, with this caveat; president obama much quicker than jimmy carter, much. however, the way reagan did it was authoritative but kind of folksy. you've got to take the edge off a little bit -- >> no. >> but you've got to be a little bold and fresh out there. but you've got to do it with more of a twinkle in your eye. if he shows malice, he'll lose. jenna: we'll see what our next guest thinks about that. it's one of governor romney's former debate coaches, brett o'donnell. he's the president of donnell and associates. in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with senator john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how
what about mitt romney, though? bill o'reilly offering up his advice this morning on fox and friends. take a listen. >> what romney should be doing right now is watching ronald reagan take apart jimmy carter. now, with this caveat; president obama much quicker than jimmy carter, much. however, the way reagan did it was authoritative but kind of folksy. you've got to take the edge off a little bit -- >> no. >> but you've got to be a little bold and fresh out there. but you've...
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mitt romney has been running for so long. but by the time the debate comes on wednesday night, both of the men will have had five straight days of prep preparation. they will be plenty prepared. they have everything they want to say -- >> i am having nightmare flashbacks. charlie, what do you think that the candidates need to be to be considered quote/unquote the winner? or will they both claim victory regardless? >> i don't think we will have a major moment in any of these debates, unless somebody does something completely -- incredibly stupid, which mitt romney -- could possibly do that. i don't see president obama doing that. he is a lot more disciplined. he is more comfortable on the stage. , i think than mitt romney. for mitt romney's part, he needs to go out there and not try to be liked. he is not a particularly... likeable candidate. i think he needs to say, i will be a competent technocrat on the economy and focus on that and not try to be a rock star because president obama has that sort of sewn up, i think. in an e
mitt romney has been running for so long. but by the time the debate comes on wednesday night, both of the men will have had five straight days of prep preparation. they will be plenty prepared. they have everything they want to say -- >> i am having nightmare flashbacks. charlie, what do you think that the candidates need to be to be considered quote/unquote the winner? or will they both claim victory regardless? >> i don't think we will have a major moment in any of these debates,...
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mitt romney up early in westerville, ohio. that is the key state of ohio right in the center part of the state near columbus, ohio, the capital city. mitt romney hitting the president on debt and deficit spending moments ago. >> do we want four more years where every single year the take-home pay goes down? >> no!. >> do we want four more years of trillion dollar deficits? >> know. >> i don't believe we can afford four more years like the last four years and the reason i believe after the debates and after the cam panes and after all the ads are over, the people of ohio are going to say loud and clear on november 6th, we can't afford four more years. we must do better. [cheers and applause] bill: you can watch this speech. it steams life on foxnews.com as the rally continues there in westerville, ohio. martha: fire and protests in the streets of europe. listen to some of this. [shouting]. those are the scenes with riot police out in force in the streets of the city of madrid. clashing with hooded protesters there. tens of thou
mitt romney up early in westerville, ohio. that is the key state of ohio right in the center part of the state near columbus, ohio, the capital city. mitt romney hitting the president on debt and deficit spending moments ago. >> do we want four more years where every single year the take-home pay goes down? >> no!. >> do we want four more years of trillion dollar deficits? >> know. >> i don't believe we can afford four more years like the last four years and the...
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but governor romney is planning a new speech. the following two presidential debates will include that. megyn: meantime president barack obama is in henderson, nevada. some say the city of henderson is a microcosm of the economy we have seen over the past few years. yet the latest polls show the race in nevada is neck and neck and that is causing -- ed henry live in vegas. hey, ed. >> the president -- they are calling it debate camp in henderson. 20 miles from where i am right now it's an opulent resort known as lake las vegas that is symbol i of the boom and bust. that whole lake las vegas resort where the president is doing his debate prep. it's modeled after an italian village. it went bankrupt the last few years. it's now sort of coming back and the president is hoping that is a microcosm that he's pushing this recovery along slowly, not just mere in nevada but all along the country. it's interesting to hear john roberts about chris christie raising expectations for mitt romney. the president at a rally in vegas last night tr
but governor romney is planning a new speech. the following two presidential debates will include that. megyn: meantime president barack obama is in henderson, nevada. some say the city of henderson is a microcosm of the economy we have seen over the past few years. yet the latest polls show the race in nevada is neck and neck and that is causing -- ed henry live in vegas. hey, ed. >> the president -- they are calling it debate camp in henderson. 20 miles from where i am right now it's an...
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if obama doesn't romney doesn't. martha: interesting. >> the administration doesn't want to get romney in those pictures with world leaders, he'll look presidential, they don't want it. they get nothing out of it. if romney meets with these leaders he gets everything out of it, he looks presidential, he looks like he has the ability to be on that world stage. if obama meets with him he doesn't get anything, he's already met with them. martha: that is a very interesting point, kt. what he might squander, president obama in the process of trying to avoid that tit for tat as you say is the opportunity to do the job of being president. i mean this is a critical moment, i certainly don't have to tell you, unfolding here in the middle east and i think doesn't it beg the question of simply fitting the job description at this moment? >> yeah, but you know what, i've been in white houses during election years, the job is to get reelected. they figure they'll take care of all of that in a second term and they don't have a whol
if obama doesn't romney doesn't. martha: interesting. >> the administration doesn't want to get romney in those pictures with world leaders, he'll look presidential, they don't want it. they get nothing out of it. if romney meets with these leaders he gets everything out of it, he looks presidential, he looks like he has the ability to be on that world stage. if obama meets with him he doesn't get anything, he's already met with them. martha: that is a very interesting point, kt. what he...